-How did Mukadani, who likes railways, see the opening of the FUKU-TOSHIN LINE ?

From the perspective of a railway fan since I was a child, I could hardly imagine that such a route could be made here. Because there are YAMANOTE LINE, I think that the person who first thought about putting another one as a ring line is great (laugh). In retrospect, as the whole story is understood from the story that the subway is likely to be made, it becomes something like "Eh, what, what?" It is not such an old story that Tokyu Cultural Center disappeared from Shibuya, either. The planetarium and the Tokyu Bunka Kaikan are, from the point of view of the people around Setagaya, that's like the goal of the Sugoroku (laughs). From the place where it was gone, such a station can be made in such a short time, and a very new Ando-sensei-designed station called “Gyokan” can be made ... As the whole scene is understood, the railway fan is overwhelmed See you. I think it is a great route.

Please mention the point at --FUKU-TOSHIN LINE.

After all it will be the bribe of mutual direct operation (following, mutual duty). When it finally becomes compatible with the Toyoko Line in 2012, the Minato Mirai Line will be five companies (including the Minato Mirai Line). Yokohama high-speed railway, Tokyu, Tokyo Metro Co.,Ltd. , Tobu and Seibu. The idea of having five companies is simply an unprecedented size. On Toei Asakusa Line, there are Keikyu, Toei, Hokuso, and Keisei, but it must be no less than .... I'm also concerned about express operation in the subway line. We do in Toei Line, but think about overtaking facilities from here early here. Another point is also interesting as a route. It is a way of thinking that it passes inside the YAMANOTE LINE from Ikebukuro to Shibuya. As a route that runs parallel to Meiji Dori, honestly, it will be a match between JR and Gachinko. Their grand plans of JR SHONAN-SHINJUKU LINE which had been preceded, mean that there are a lot of customers flowing to JR. I think this is a great part of JR and I think it is a wonderful place. It comes in from the outside, goes into the inside, comes out to the other side, but this time, even if it comes from the outside like this, it goes in the inside this time and brings it to the outside again Is it going to live by things? It is good that you have a game like that.

- Tadao Ando-designed How about this new Shibuya Station.

Tokyo Station is said to like an important cultural property, you may be part of the old station is seen in cultural property basis but, Well than that I mean how do you the station did not really come spoke to seriously . Although convenience and ease of use has been various research ... these shape and design, because to represent the station at the concept, I think that there is no few examples. I do not, but try to see is buried Chichu ship in the ground. It is Toka somehow "Akkore is Do's top portion", part feel the curve is in the everywhere, where great artistic effect and I'll try or should I say, the image of "Chichusen" another in everyone's head it's floats. In Toka once drawing Toka brochure, potentially we will do there is also a part that got the information .... But still, Mr. great thing of Tadao Ando, ​​it makes this kind of a, I do not be able to see from the outside, Tteyuu I'm floating in everyone's mind, but it is a little artist-ish hateful production. I think that was also budget Toka various problems, but I think that great your relationship who have been decided it.

- Seen from the side of the so-called railway favorite, Where is likely to point out attractive in this station?

This is the Toyoko Line, which will start operation in four years, and the points that are supposed to be used by the direct line of FUKU-TOSHIN LINE. Especially the place where the plane cross called "Golden Cross" and the double connecting line "Cythus" etc. are said to be complicated "Sithus Diamond Crossing". There's a cross between them, there's a flat cross ... It's unbearable for those who like point. You can't usually see such points near you. However, since there is now a passage for migration to be removed in the future on the Toyoko Line, if you go to the very tip (to Ikebukuro), you will see the points in front of you for a limited period of four years be able to. In addition, I can see the scene from the front of FUKU-TOSHIN LINE coming from Ikebukuro, turning in front of it, hitting waves and entering the right and left homes. This may be probably a sanctuary for railway fans, for four years. I feel that I overdo it a little (laughs). Then there is a brow dome in the middle of the station, and if you look at it from above, you can see the incoming trains in a glance. I say "electricity chira" (laughs). Because it is an end point, it doesn't pass, so the package doesn't disappear so much, but this is also a good idea. In other words, we can see how the train is going on for a long time. It's normal to know if the train comes or does not come for the first time in the underground, especially if it's a station with such depth, but if you can see it from the top, you like this from the beginning as a fan of the railway I'm here. What a great thing. So it's not a very evaluated station, is this? Not only those who love railways, but also from the general public and those who use railways, I think it is a very unique and interesting station.

- Mr. Mukuya guess I come come from Setagaya.

That's right. I lived far from the era of the Tamagawa Garden Futako, then also I have never lived in non-railroad Tokyu. Futakotamagawa Gardens, Sakurashinmachi, Yoga, Kaminoge, so right now I because it is Sangenjaya. Dwelt city's it. Childhood went Planetarium of Tokyu Bunka Kaikan. Our era is the era of the ball power. And from the top of the Dogenzaka come down with Ga', waiting is Toyoko department store to open the mouth. So, the world of the other SF if you look from us. Tram I'm going to be sucked into a department store. If you look from a department store, and went into the tram, that goes as it is also out .... This area, I think I was the most advanced among Tokyo. So, by itself, make that go to Shibuya, there was another excursion more excitement. We we were Shibuya blind in that sense.

- Is that time Shibuya and now of Shibuya big peculiarities of?

The unchanged from ancient times to the contrary, we think that after all the traffic of a strategic point, because a long time ago had also come streetcar. I was there and out of line, It is also also Shibuya transportation of a strategic point a long time ago now. From it, I think Do not turned into overwhelming is that Denentoshi and a railroad development since the opening up Nagatsuta, it the amount of movement of people to the Shibuya by the wayside of the population increase from has become very big ne. Shibuya of the time when I knew the beginning, around the station from the station facilities with a focus on Toyoko department store, and so far about the Seibu department store, I guess is around Tokyu Bunka Kaikan. There is the good of the trickle down and commercial facilities, like a go for shopping .... It is now the entertainment and commercial facilities such as movie theaters, such as the tenant has been increased in large quantities. The idea of ​​a department store that families and mothers go shopping, not'm young and a wide range of age groups is only shopping, or being able to enjoy, including various entertainment part, or will not it went on behalf of the kind of town. I feel that coming out is a place that created the culture.