- The Naito's met first in Shibuya?

Maybe, it can be found in the storage of up to about five years of age and follow. Since the mother of the family home was in Kugahara, it was Toka or been taken to Tokyu Planetarium grandfather. Eggs of dismantling silver. Planetarium. It remains in the memory. Childhood, been taken to first planetarium .... The city does not remember, but I remember clearly is that of the planetarium.

- Or even a student, you were out of the town of Shibuya?

Still, it is when you are not able to Toka Parco, or a date, or look avant-garde drama in "Jianjian", listening jazz, that sort of had a good go. At the time, it was Ppoka' underground. Again it is a city of young people I Shibuya. Nostalgic of the "hole in the wall". Toka to mix clams in spaghetti, Asarijimeji natto Toka ... at that time, it was revolutionary. And say spaghetti, to the era not only Neapolitan or meat sauce in a coffee shop, and Aiu things came out in Shibuya, I was eating to go "hole in the wall".

- I think especially Shibuya has changed in comparison with the time that is, will what kind of place?

Or town I do not it was already changed little, in many ways, say has become respectable. I think it is or can be "109", or it is a large building with the split in the vicinity of the Seibu Department Store ... the old days there was no building so much greater. From things like a collection of multi-tenant building, it has been equipped with gradually facial features. It burns, the atmosphere of the city does not have changed much. When still young people are Wow Wow, I think that it does not really changed. But the old days there was a darker feel. But it is those things I city. Intermingled in subtle kind of front and back, but I've got a place like the taste of the city comes out, Shinjuku is located in a little while to lose those things. So, it would eliminate and re-development of the Piss Alley, Then, also, I think you have run out of things a little like folds something of such Shinjuku. Shibuya is to feel that or why not it not the case. I think that'm that terrain. There is a feeling that will remain such a place. I wonder if it is Shibuya good place. Or being able to ensure the diversity, Toka can places like hide, is a place that does not go to such completely clean, I think that either one of the elements that attract the young people.

- From the standpoint of the professional, and the bird's-eye view of the Shibuya of shape, what kind of town that you would do?

(Shibuya) There is no history so much. It was Shibuya village, until about 150 years ago. That's what it looks like now ... Shibuya is rather like a biotope, with the river flowing in the middle of the valley, and it seems that various plants have grown ... there may be such diversity. If Marunouchi is a golf course, Shibuya is like a biotope. Marunouchi seems to be always mowing lawn with pesticides so that weeds do not grow like weeds. Shinjuku has become a bit halfway. The valley topography of Shibuya will not disappear from now on. According to my experience, once in a valley, it looks like the bottom of a valley, and things like irresistibility take root relatively well, such as it's a color town. In short, I can not be a major. Originally a swampland, the warriors generally do not go down the top of the mountain or down to the slopes. Townerland is driven away. Also, it is the bottom of the valley topography that is not good at townspeople. Shibuya is such a thing. So I guess I'm doing well in the opposite direction. You can think of that group of buildings in Shibuya, a small pencil building or a multi-purpose building as a biotope grass. So if you clean it too much, the diversity of the environment is lost. But if you don't think about it, it will die if you do too much. If it says by scale merit, it loses to both Marunouchi and Shinjuku. Maybe I could lose to Ebisu or Osaki from now on. However, looking over the YAMANOTE LINE , there are not so many valleys like that. I think that I can not secure the advantage with others if I do not use the unique kind of diversity brought about by the valley topography well.

- Because "nefarious things gather" it is sounds very Shibuya seems words.

So much say and bad! (Lol). But, I think I can say such a place. As a town, but there is also talk of wanting to come to a little adult people (in Shibuya), or will I be able to change some people come if changing the town. I can be and I think that is, but too much, over there I think that is better not to do well here. Young that the adults come to see the people, and Which is you do not is captured clearly because or center. If it seems young people of the culture has been always out dwarf from over there, no longer forced to go even adults. If too much I will take a good balance it say that both adults and children, I feel like would be strange. Axis is still young people. Of course there is also Bunkamura and adults of the area, such as the Shoto, but the still have the herd at the center of Shibuya, I think that I think we young child.

- Culture of Shibuya, how do you Irasshai catch.

Culture it's a raw thing. Because things like fresh food, always change. Place called whether River, in short, an important is a place of whether Shibuya the soil that river has been prepared, will die and would decide to say that this. So, the fact that young people gather is, not that much energy is invested, the results if they have it come out in various ways. That allow it and there is a feeling that Shibuya. Such as not in urban planning, I think I that feel good when you get off the station of Shibuya (laughs).

- Hachiko Do you Irasshai take a look at how the open space around the landscape?

Are there any that you must organize. This time, wishing to be organize in the story of the foundation, which is progressing now, is why is planned. A variety of things .... However, I thing that has been planned, it's not go quite well. Or was self-satisfaction of the designer, it is not or was self-satisfaction of the administration. This is wrong plan concept itself of another 20th century. But why is the legal system Toka administrative system along it are made, just because I did in the street, there is no such that I say it is a good town. But rather, it can not be a good city if Ya' the street, I can say that the has been proven to the 20th century that. So, how to slip through there do it, the goodness of Shibuya is that either remain until the end, my challenge. Government is and then you try to make those that do not exactly a problem in the government, I think I want a profit development projects mainly in the 1 yen, I think it's right in it, private enterprise, nor government enterprises. But, it 's biotope will die. The original is also whether not it is also no children. Because wind speed the moment I make money, it might balance holds for business planning at that time, or to leave what good thinking Toka 50 years Toka 100 years, business person there is large for the region and I look at the total I think the to. I have seen in the kind of point of view. Basically there is a diversity of culture, is whether those things can have a softness, such as going to constantly replaced. I think not that it is Shibuya a do. I think that I want to became that way.

- The concept of neighborhood of Shibuya Station, in what direction?

I think that will be better basically. It is because passengers next to Shinjuku Anyway, I also in about I thought one digit different from kana to hear the number, how it was 3 million people a day? So, I think it is natural as the government is in the place that it should have to ensure the convenience of as a transfer station. In other words, when I woke up the accident occurred some panic, it is not troubled. So, it is important to also ensure a minimum of convenience. But, Shibuya just because became convenient do not know whether to prosperity. Oh, I now transfer convenient, I think quickly go home it 's not like a ... so. Still a little frog full hook in Shibuya ... or, it is not troubled if not a little to get off and want to ... kind of location in Shibuya. When comes into town, or Toka charm of the station itself, Toka's around the town square of the station, if there is no appeal to the city of the first, will not be quite so. Its sides, is where we are most struggling.

- For example, do you have a hard time in what place?

For example, the Hachiko square is wide. Then INOKASHIRA LINE , GINZA LINE , HANZOMON LINE , each transfer becomes convenient, too. JR will also be convenient. Perhaps large scale accumulation can be done and shopping will be possible. But that's the worst it's all about. After all co-existence and co-prosperity is not possible, and there is no increase in people as a whole town. It is visible that if you compete only in the current Shibuya bowl, you lose. Well, I think that the other party's head is Marunouchi, Shinjuku, maybe Shanghai, or Seoul, and I have to think about expanding the whole pie in Shibuya. Business accumulation and commercial accumulation will come to the center, but how to make it decentralized is a problem of town development next time. That's why we are working on how much attractive things can be prepared, and the highlight is how to create the attraction of the upper floor, not just the open space and the ground floor. I think I have to do something about what to do. On top of that, I'm going to do a cultural district this time, but I would like to create a network with such things. This is what Mr. Morichi was originally thought to have, because it is a valley topography, there is a network in a form that does not intersect with a car, and when you get off at Shibuya, it is a city where you can walk naturally through the topography. This will increase the commercial area of Shibuya. There is no such city, I think it is not in the world. So I want to do it. I think that it will be dressed that there is a station in the center. From there, it will be scattered like a mesh, making some of the urban core at places like this turning point, which will become one of Shibuya's identities. After 20 or 30 years, when I went to Shibuya, the city was very messy, but if I wanted to go somewhere, if I reached Urban Core, I could go to various places after going there. It is a city that is very difficult to understand, but I think I can go somewhere if I want to go somewhere.

- Somewhere properly Tadoritsukeru town, sounds good.

Become involved in Shibuya of urban development, we try to walk as much as possible the Shibuya of the city. Kana before about a year, and stood at the Shibuya crossing, really between two people I was like a Brown girl came out to Shibuya is waiting for a signal at the intersection, of Tohoku while watching the QFRONT and 109 on the other side I had been saying "Ne it 's Tokyo" in accent (laughs). I do not think it's Shibuya. It came the countryside of the girl, but where you do not know well or Tokyo that's, of for them Tokyo, is why there is the Tteyuu Shibuya of longing. Also making a respectable town, I think that I think we can not be helped and not that way. Because the charm of such a city, not something that can be then easily adjusted.