1979, cafe "human relations" was born in the Spanish Steps is now also continues to tick his name. Kumagai Corporation, run by the same store is, to form a unique restaurant group to then center Shibuya. Kumagai's genuine Shibuya born Shibuya grew up, was interviewed think of to Shibuya.

- Please tell us about the involvement of Shibuya.

I am Shibuya from my grandfather's day. Even if it was called Shibuya, the bridge was selling food at a sale, but in Taisho 2 it was around Dogensakaue, which was a busy area at that time, just as the current “Dogensaka monument” stands I have a grocery store and a dry store. It was disbanded by food control once, and Shibuya was destroyed in the war disaster, but it got down to the present INOKASHIRA LINE Shibuya station immediately after the war and put out a grocery store, and then it began to appear at that time Focusing on the food service industry, I started a chain of “Anmitsu-ya”. It is about 1955. This is about 30 stores from Hokkaido to Osaka, with a store name "Tanima", and in Shibuya there were stores in the corner of Seibu-san's and Parco-san's Japanese clothing items. There is no one more now.

- Your work is much in Shibuya?

Me too, but grew up in Shibuya is also president of the deceased predecessor, I grew up in the to ... of course I also Shibuya work in Shibuya. Even my father has passed Owada elementary school, but I became Omukai elementary schools have already closed down passing through .... The original was not engaged in the merchant. Grandfather that was "occupation" for is to live when I was beginning to come out from the countryside, I think I have become about "family business" to the father of the era. In, I thought that I should become a "company" in my era. The basically involved all the way to the food, my father, but had been doing to put a force on the pretty "food wholesale", my food representation of how the restaurants and cafes of the case, Culinary Arts (cooking), tavern I mean that going on to. As basically the company, even if the father is so, but Toka to eat, we do want to continue to provide happiness to our customers through to eat you think to be in the root. It has not changed even now.

- 1979, it was opened to "human relations" to the Spanish Steps.

As the food service business category I was already doing Anmitsuya, many in the tourist destination of that business category to Anmitsuya, because it does not actually function as a store to use day-to-day life's in town, I Anmitsuya I thought is that it is unfavorable. "Human relations" is, as the store that has caused from the design, is the very first store that I worked. Here it's in-house property, but originally or doubles as a food warehouse, or there is a dormitory, or make the sweets, is where or ... there was a factory stock sweets. Strange story, it might be the only wooden remaining in Shibuya.

- Be able to Parco in the early 70's, and then I was born Spanish Steps.

Well, Masuda's Parco has taught a considerable lot of things. There is a preparation room when the Shibuya Seibu can be over there, when the president of the predecessor is going to talk to there, or go stick, I now learn that I ask them to hear a lot of marketing of the idea of ​​Masuda. Toka town of the way, I learned a lot Toka Do not you live and not to what kind of wind I city. Newness of the operation of Aiu specialty store building even though yes, had become the talk unabashedly the like, such that their know-how. At the time, I think this was a good book called Parco publication's had put out "Across". It was a lot to learn even the "Across". The time of the Parco of SP stations, it was equipped with considerable excellent person.

- The concept of "human relations" is, do you floated soon?

For example, I Seigaku born of woman, I have many people that put a daughter also to Seigaku. Then it or come in parent and child two generations. Become a college student from the high school students, at a time when "Let's go to the cafe" in Shibuya of the city, but at the time I Tteyuu "cafe", I thought the scene that go to the coffee shop for the first time their own money. Toba I I thought going to make the store of mouth, of "human relations". Toka's become a college student, I thought trying to make Toka I have a job to Tokyo from the countryside, the first go through the store most. For example, it will be daughter to mother and waiting in Shibuya, and say, "" human relations "know cafe Tteyuu? Located in the Spanish Steps", become surprised mom to hear it. Like a "I'm doing yet." (Laughs). As you pursue the ease of use, it is a coffee shop that was considered in the fact that I wonder if the former have it (Cafe). While well change it is a shop that made as the concept does not become stale.

- It is the name this shop name is not forget I asked once.

At the time, I use scene of the coffee shop is still or aware of the student, or conscious of the first year of working people, of my friends, I thought I want to be a gathering place. In French, to use the term the "friends" means "companion", "Copan (copain)", first I was named "Cafe de Copan", I too somehow beautiful. So I thought you try a subtitle. And you say you want to take care of what most between friends, but it is a human relationship with that person. So it was with the "human relations" the subtitle, reworked the logo doing this in reverse to the main. I mean that fix the subtitle of the initial stage of the plan towards the shop name. At the time, Japanese, it was the age that does not become too much shop name, and as a result, Have you started to remember because very often, was obtained (laughs).

- Spanish Steps is, it is one of intense location of change among the Shibuya.

In from the 1960s until the mid-1950s, it was at once the city has changed. In first that has been developed in the direction of Koen-dori, until the next to the road did not progress the development. It is Parco Part 2, Part 3, in which continue to expand the Toka quattro, it went has been developed also Spanish Steps. It has been active much in the shop meetings, but the mix of changing the words and merchandise food is going very well. Including the owner of each building, because there is very good cooperation of the neighborhood, it is done without destroying the status as a street. In that sense, the store of the Spanish Steps is it's not a big change. So different from the world of like a tenant leasing shop street, to we can do a shop firmly settled down in reverse, you'll be sent off and away from the too era.

Greet the soon 30th anniversary cafe "human relations" is located in the Spanish Steps