In our web site from this spring, for "Shibuya of the city" along with the key person to be active based in Shibuya, start a forum "Shibuya culture tea" that Katariaeru think carefully. In the second round, which was held on September 25, 2010, DJ TARO's that lived in front of Yoyogi Park as a child, detailed "master of the walk" to the deep Shibuya editor-in-chief Masahiko Yamaguchi, greeted Shibuya gal of the charisma Yumachi & Ai奈's panelists, I was heartily told the theme of "play in Shibuya.". For the purposes of daily Shibuya use, are missing in the current Shibuya playground, and even more to be expected in the future of Shibuya, was jumped unique opinions and ideas are many ....
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- "Shibuya culture tea 其No弐" Outline
- Date and time:
- 2010年9月25日(土)13:00〜15:00
- Venue:
- Cerulean Tower Tokyu Hotel 40th floor Towers Bar "Berobisuto"
- participant:
- Ninety
Panelists
DJ TARO (radio DJ / Sound Producer)In addition to CLUB DJ, maker of dance music such as sound producer
[DJ TARO] official site
Masahiko Yamaguchi (magazine "master of the walk," editor-in-chief)Specialist for teaching the fun of the city to walk for adults
[Master of the walk] official site
Yumachi & Ai奈 (fashion magazine "egg" model / artist)
「渋谷 GAL's」プロデュースを担当するなど、渋谷ギャルのカリスマ
[Yumachi & Ai奈] official site
coordinator:
West Tree (Shibuya Keizai Shimbun editor-in-chief)The management of the news site "Shibuya Keizai Shimbun" (Ltd.) star commodity Institute representative.
Shibuya Keizai Shimbun
West:Today, we are welcoming a very wide range of generations of panelists. The panelists of you if I have answered the questionnaire in advance, we will hear a story based on it.
"From Yokohama living, like Shibuya"
West:Yumachi's, whether young people, such as the Ai奈's who is running what in Shibuya of town, do not know surprisingly we are adults. Young people that say I wonder where are together, we will Itadako to tell you two. But first is how often you come to Shibuya, Mr. Yumachi the "Week 6", Mr. Ai奈 is is that the "Week 4".
Yumachi:I'm vary from week to week, the work many Shibuya. So Toka play after work, kind of feeling.
West:Is the feeling that work and play has become mixed up.
Yumachi:Work and play also Shibuya, like Shibuya than Yokohama living. It's calm, wow.
Ai奈:I also, almost the same as the Yuma.
"New York DJ surprised! Such a thing is ... to Japan in what"
West:"Three or four times." This is the answer of Mr. TARO.
DJ TARO:Recently it has been reduced, but it is often to go to the record shop. And take a DJ who came from New York Toka overseas in Shibuya, it amazes me what records that do not sell in the next is selling so in Japan what. It is often come to Shibuya for music.
West:Well, the Tteyuu no longer HMV, the shock was great?
DJ TARO:HMV from before that there is no, Cisco, etc., I called a small analog record shop had been reduced. But this is I also think that there is that Tteyuu because there is style to listen to music with the times have been various changes, it is a lonely became so much for everything.
"To and go planetarium alone, I had spent a dark and lonely Shibuya (laughs)"
West:Mr. Yamaguchi "20 years ago, about three times a week ...".
Yamaguchi:Because I went to high school at GINZA LINE, I used Shibuya as a transfer station. It feels like getting off on the way home and playing home. I was a sober high school student, so a bookstore rather than a record. Go to Sanseido, go to the Daiseiji, go around the bookstore and watch movies somehow, or go to the planetarium alone. I was spending a dark and lonely Shibuya (laughs).
West:If you think in reverse, Shibuya Maybe a place to enjoy any one person.
Yamaguchi:Now, we have rebuilt the Tokyu Bunka Kaikan, it is on the first floor at the time I was put the street TV through which a movie trailer. Watching it dopey, or thought the kana Let what is now. Back to the Chari Chari by bicycle ... to Meguro with a home when it comes to dinner time.
West:I felt a joy, such as I do not think one person.
"I feel you are hanging around 90%, you will want to go out of sight."
West:Now let's watch the four of action. And ask the Shibuya of the purpose of use in percent "food and drink, such as a cafe = 10%, shopping = 10%, hanging around the city = 80%". Is pretty extreme purposes, this is?
Yamaguchi:Yes (laughs). It's a work pattern. Shopping in the extent to buy If you have any good thing is, you have to hang out almost 90 percent. Shibuya Do terrain is not that special. And say "I have to call you when I arrived" at the time of the meeting, it does tend to collect in the case of Shibuya, hard to put a goal in the Ginza and Shinjuku. This is because the Shibuya of the terrain of the "cone-shaped", from easy to move around the valley bottom. In terms of terrain, it will also change without'm relief only. For example, although the head office Maruyama side that it is the back of the Tokyu there is a love hotel, Shoto side exclusive residential area. It only separates one only road, not not mean that changes in the gradient, this is really interesting. So it is often hanging out the split and mortar of the edge (edge) than the heart of Shibuya. Chokochokotto, little bitty Toka shops, shops and restaurants, and Toka or they can also bar, is interesting to cherry-pick that sort of a.
West:Determination that Let's go over here the next time you stroll is, do you what is in the standard?
Yamaguchi:Will not interesting even walking down the straight road? So you will want to go out of sight. Since Shibuya are quite twist, here, enter and something stepped on the What Attari.
West:It is that recommended the city to hang around school.
Yamaguchi:The specific "master of the walk," but I often expected the downtown area, is pretty good also, "Shibuya" is to hang out.
"Shopping = 48%, the probability to meet the acquaintance"
West:What Who are this. "Cafe food and drink = 30%," "shopping = 48%" live = 7% "," club = 3% "," hanging out = 12% of the city. "
DJ TARO:Yes, because there is a Meguro you live in roughly my workplace is Minato-ku, it's just easy to pass through the Shibuya on the way home. Shopping record, fashion, after music shops. Have pretty music shops are clustered on the south side of the station, I often go to such a place. It's also convenient to the meeting, reunion of chance Tteyuu "Genki? Long time" is the Shibuya is often most definitely.
West:Shibuya, there is a high probability to meet the person who knows?
DJ TARO:But it was so. It's not so much be carried out in the other of the city, I somehow Shibuya, it is also the place where the person itself to scramble.
West:It is a witticism.
"Fun just to look, even people-watching from the shop."
West:"Cafe = 10%", "shopping = 30%", "movie = 5%", "club = 10%", "hanging around the city = 5%", "other work = 10%". It has been fairly distributed. This wonder if Mr. Yumachi.
Yumachi:Yuma Nde the club do not go to play, "club = 10%" is work. Toka and Shibuya atom Ai奈, live at your job at Camelot. Once, because it is only you are married, the club does not go in the play.
West:The Tteyuu "hanging around the streets" is?
Yumachi:Suitable for one person when you are waiting for the people. Even within the Marukyu, they are hanging around without anything necessarily a buy. Also to be helpful and the Toka center are walking so fashionable's many, I'm used to study. So than the shop has a human observation.
West:It can not be in the local area?
Yumachi:Only no more Yankee that's local (laughs).
West:I told Innovation too late, Yumachi's generation I think you say that of the city center I "center". Our generation is I do would say, "city center".
Yumachi:Oh, Is that so.
West:That it is young people everyone, center, because he told me to center.
Yumachi:Center, center.
West:I thought I first What would (laughs)
"First in the karaoke, about 30 minutes has been talking"
West:Ai奈's guess contains the "Art appreciation", 20%. This, do you where things.
Ai奈:Art is a great love, is not it doing Toka somehow exhibition well in Toka under the Tokyu. Before that, though out advertising trick ethene. In that sort of, I often traveled with mom.
West:Toka Escher?
Ai奈:And absolutely no interest the child I say I want to go to see a friend. I, Let's go, If you take me to say I would go, that have a child ultra Tsuman'na likely, like got over a little annoying.
West:It is a great weight of karaoke then.
Ai奈:Yes. But it went a little while ago also Yuma, if there is spare time a little even, "Oh, this, one and a half hours is I can go," or saying.
Yumachi:Until the last minute.
Ai奈:It's rice also eat there.
West:Also eat rice in the karaoke shop?
Yumachi:Nde another full private room, to anyone to not be disturbed.
West:Well, I feel a little living room like a themselves.
Ai奈:Oh, completely, is it. Living room. The first speaks, good, it feels like a or sing.
West:I guess totally different is our generation and use. When we go, if there is an image that really do unless sing something, but you do not experience Tteyuu speak at karaoke shop.
Ai奈:About the first 30 minutes we are talking.
West:Purpose of Mr. Ai奈 is there is also hanging around also shopping dining and art, there is also karaoke Toka other, it is a very Shibuya-ish.
"Shenzhen, hundred hotels shop, I Is that something unexplored region sense. You stir a sense of adventure."
West:Then I'd like to me like a haunt point, and marking the range of action of Yamaguchi, is roughly hundred hotels shop, direction of Dogenzaka?
Yamaguchi:I agree. It's edge I often As I mentioned a little while ago. So Toka hundred hotels shop, Sakuragaoka-cho.
West:(While looking at the map) It is better here.
Yamaguchi:After it is Toka side of the temple Miyamasuzaka. Really the Hajikko, I mean I feel you are walking likely something apologetic (laughs). Shinsen something even Toka many shops astringent system. Once upon a time, Shenzhen is just was a red-light district, Toka shop using at the time of the building, also the old tavern's like you're doing before the war Attari. On the other hand, or there is a bistro of fashion next to it, I guess I'm that something unexplored region sense. Always it is carried out, for us stirred up the spirit of adventure.
"I am looking cafe use of Wi-Fi. After that Udagawa, Shenzhen, Kamiyama-cho"
West:Mr. TARO is "record shop", but it from the "Royal Garden Cafe" is I'm in at the pin point, is this I have been how to use?
DJ TARO:Royal Garden Cafe is just across the street from the hands, I think I'm on the second floor.
West:Of the new hotel?
DJ TARO:Is not it. Toka meeting, or think of something or dopey in the free time of the work, is fine like in a free cafe that can various work. But so much the presence of the cafe when viewed from the outside I do not feel, and go up to the second floor, very open-minded place.
West:really.
DJ TARO:Also you Kazuto customers of the seat of the counter, to each other and what MacBook Pro are placed one by one one person. I, I like to look for a cafe that you can use Wi-Fi, and are there not also found in other people, because the freedom to enjoy the space, haunt looks often near Udagawa.
West:From here, I'm here and there moving.
DJ TARO:I agree. Udagawa, Shenzhen, Kamiyama-cho, Atari. Eateries of Shenzhen You may also place you are taken care of, Nde was going to Shoto junior high school, also shops father's classmate is doing still Attari. In Kamiyama-cho, it there is a shop that will do my favorite, the packaging. Tteyuu "wrap factory".
West:Oh, there will ne.
DJ TARO:When giving gifts to people, and I think that I want to do a little cute decoration, it will go to the packing shop. In very cute packaging, poor to and (laughs) such store that more packaging than those that gift becomes higher, and match for each other Potsunpotsun, at that time, there is also that Tteyuu as had been through every day, I'm the neighborhood likes I'm.
West:Have you haunt the east exit?
DJ TARO:You haunt. I'm so consumer electronics favorite consumer electronics DJ, First the Bic Camera of the east entrance to the base (laughs). Or there is a clothes shop which is also doing is acquaintance towards the Jingumae of back later Meiji-dori.
West:TARO Mr. It is a very wide range of activities.
"Marukyu, Yoshinoya, udon that weakened ..."
West:The following is a little sum of the two of you answer, SHIBUYA109, loft, center street, egg editing unit, karaoke, Monja shop. It monjayaki shop is quite pinpoint.
Yumachi:Monjayaki shop 's a Yuma. Other than that, but perhaps I think that in common with Ai奈. First, "109", it this is an absolute.
West:This is absolute.
Yumachi:So edit part of the egg is Jinnan 1-chome.
West:(Of the map) It is this side.
Ai奈:After that, it goes also east exit. Karaoke shop on the side.
West:Well, back Atari bowling alley.
Yumachi:Oh, it is the location of the bowling alley. There is the secret base of Yuma us.
West:But it was a secret base. The other, not a secret base from today (laughs)
Yumachi:Also yesterday, also the day before yesterday, we already Everyday. Yesterday is not put in a full occupancy, but fled towards the next to the Kara Museum.
West:I see. After the center city. To McDonald's around here?
Ai奈:I agree. From there ahead it is not so much go.
Yumachi:After, "udon weakened" in the center. Then Yoshinoya, I am often one person beef bowl in the near.
West:Yoshinoya?
Yumachi:Yes, and love.
West:I action range is quite narrow. After a little while ago I heard the story, it's the location of the Dogenzaka do not know?
Ai奈:It did not Wakan.
Yumachi:I agree. Spanish Steps will understand. Also you can see after the temple Miyamasuzaka.
West:Koen-dori is?
Ai奈:I do not know. where?
West:Koen-dori is in front of the Parco, here is Koen-dori. Dogenzaka is, next to the place of this 109. Here the hill.
Yumachi:I see. It, do not you people often do not know.
West:I How do (laughs). 109, perhaps address is Dogenzaka Shibuya.
Yumachi:Oh, but it was so.
West:You are moving in a very narrow area around the center city, do not you think Toka Let's a little adventure?
Yumachi:Far (laughs).
Ai奈:It would be all in that area.
Yumachi:That's right. All of what you want to do, in a range that can be satisfied.
Ai奈:Also to a certain fashion, to there is also a photo booth. Rice also eat.
Yumachi:Is also udon weakened.
West:I see. Well, I do not have reason not to be out of here.
Ai奈:I agree.
West:I see. We do not apparent certainly is young children, such as seen little in the go and center street on the outskirts. It has not moved in over there, I do not even budge.
Yumachi:so. Yuma and Ai奈 also, recently, so as to the debut of barely Shibuya east exit.
West:interesting.
"Easy to use, even young people, the threshold, there is no completely barrier"
West:I think that I want to think about Shibuya's attractiveness as a playground. First, "there is no absolutely threshold", which looks Yamaguchi. Because there is no threshold it is, I guess is that the addition of the city there is a threshold.
Yamaguchi:Now, I have gathered in this kind of generation, I mean I would play all the way to the elderly from the teen. A little while ago but I might be different location Toka action as shown in the map, each generation Hairikomeru. Well Shibuya I'm Some people say critically I too young, easy-to-use, even the more young people, I think it Tteyuu have mass appeal. When the walk Saturday morning I Shinjuku and Ikebukuro, air, such as the Friday night of lees that hustle and bustle has left (cage) is, or is not it or drifting I Doyon. It is not in Shibuya. Will do there are some, but the concentration is I think I wish quite thin compared to the Toka Shinjuku Ikebukuro. Once upon a time, is not it there was a bitter tavern's called "Tamahisa" next to the 109. But we are entering the building now, and messed up astringent, I wanted to enter all the way from the time of the child. After all, if suddenly entered in the neighborhood that was only twenty years old, an ordinary tavern did a correspondence that does not Kawan as adults on their own than 10, 20, it was very impressive. It "Do's such a place I Shibuya". Or rather the threshold, Shibuya of interesting places where the barrier is not at all.
"Shibuya is casual at night, the unit price is also cheap."
West:Yumachi Mr. but I know quite marketing, "the fashionable people of hangout", then "gather people from different regions." "We are people of observation" just saying have been, then "enjoy casual since there not a feeling that the city at night", "there is a meeting," "unit price is cheap."
Yumachi:Something, Truly has become like the opinion of the head nice guy (laughs). Tokyo, especially Shibuya, people who live from the original guess I think that really small. Yumamo Ai奈 also's a Kanagawa Prefectural, because there are people who have been gathered from all over the country, I think I Do not be seen various people in such surface. I Shinjuku I think the city of night, not get used. Once you have made if,'s a storm of scout me "Do not ceased cabaret". Casual that point, Shibuya at night.
West:You can remain casual?
Yumachi:I mean there is a feeling of cleanliness, feel free to play the town think it 's a. After "there is a meeting." But this is not it Toka separately meet with men, there is a gathering place in Shibuya, where Toka or can be friends. After the unit price is, at all cheaper than Yokohama.
West:cheap?
Yumachi:Yokohama karaoke is high (laughs)
West:By the way, in units of 30 minutes or one hour, and the difference how much?
Yumachi:Roughly, and are 1-hour, Yokohama is whether not I be taken about 400 yen. But But But, I Shibuya, Toka 30 minutes 70 yen (laughs). Plus, whether to free drinks at 380 yen, the do choose whether to one drink at 250 yen, it is cheap really unit price. I think we had better come to Shibuya also included the train fee, about Tteyuu.
West:How to eat?
Yumachi:I think that cheap to eat. Yoshinoya Toka is I am not Kawan, the Yokohama Station I Nde Hanamaru Udon is not (laughs)
West:I I've been sensitive to the unit price after all young people.
"Shibuya various Damn with the pennant for what it symbolizes Tokyo"
West:Then "unexpected friends thud" and "there is a human intersection elements," "speed of information catch" from it, "area have been aggregated." This is, I TARO's, for a moment your description.
DJ TARO:I, I Shibuya, I feel like a pennant that visitor buy of foreigners had been sold a long time ago well in the Tokyo Tower is. There is Tokyo Tower, there is a Mount Fuji, I want try to be a temple of Asakusa, various Damn with the pennant for what it symbolizes Tokyo. In fact it's not all of the spot to Anna near, go to Shibuya, and Tokyo pennant feeling of close to it. If there is a hotel town, there is a high-class residential area. If there is a non-bay alley to further right in the middle, contains the kind of all the elements. But will be visible from the Cerulean Tower, Yoyogi Park and, and a large Olympic gymnasium, Toka shops, such as have been doing from Grandpa's generation, I'm certain Even the shops of such long-established, to the appropriate place.
West:I see.
DJ TARO:Kind of all of the elements have been aggregated in the place not that large area. It is I wish interesting.